User talk:JLvanOs

Hello, I'm Deb. I wanted to let you know that I undid one or more of your recent contributions because they appeared to be promotional. Advertising and using Wikipedia as a "soapbox" are against Wikipedia policy and not permitted. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about Wikipedia. Thank you.

Hi. I just noticed the comments on your user page. That is not the best place to contact other contributors or admins, who are unlikely to e-mail you as it would mean divulging their own e-mail addresses. You can use this page or get general advice from Wikipedia:Teahouse. Deb (talk) 11:50, 5 December 2014 (UTC)

Hi. I see you recreated the article without addressing the fact that it does not meet current wikipedia guidelines. Please don't recreate it without adding the appropriate references. Deb (talk) 12:06, 5 December 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for your message. Pleaes read the guidelines on Wikipedia:Verifiability, Wikipedia:Citing sources and Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources. Please don't upload pages to mainspace unless they are ready. You can use the sandbox in the meantime. Deb (talk) 12:45, 5 December 2014 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Melocycatcher (January 27)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Primefac was: Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

• If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Melocycatcher and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
• If you need any assistance, you can ask for help at the [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?

title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&preload=Template:Afc_decline/HD_preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=User_talk:JLvanOs Articles for creation help desk] or on the reviewer's talk page.

• You can also get real-time chat help from experienced editors.

Primefac (talk) 19:58, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

Hello Deb

Needless to say that I am disappointed and although in general I can understand some arguments I am certainly not convinced by all of them. Let me first explain that when writing the text I followed the Wikipedia text of Musipedia, a comparable search engine, for many years accepted by Wikipedia. In the mean time I discovered that this text has been removed.

I am willing to adapt the text. However the guidelines ask for "independent reliable published sources. So this problem has to be solved. Several respected larger organizations deliberately have published positive experiences with the Melodycatcher. So far I do not know other than these this type of sources. Honestly I do not see reasons why these sources should not be "independant, reliable and published". I agree they are not "scientific" But I estimate this might be the case for much more sources used by Wikipedia

The text "reads as an advertisement". That would indicate a relation with a commercial site. Indeed hardly any world is as commercial as the music world. The Melodycatcher, however, in fact is one of the better non commercial sites, the product of a hobby, meant to help users to find song titles and related generalized on-line sources without any further commercial purpose.

Even than I could make a shorter text. It would help me if you could give me one or more examples of comparable stories

With best regards Jan van Os ————JLvanOs

Draft:Melocycatcher concern

Hi there, I'm HasteurBot. I just wanted to let you know that Draft:Melocycatcher, a page you created, has not been edited in 6 months. The Articles for Creation space is not an indefinite storage location for content that is not appropriate for articlespace.

If your submission is not edited soon, it could be nominated for deletion. If you would like to attempt to save it, you will need to improve it.

You may request Userfication of the content if it meets requirements.

If the deletion has already occured, instructions on how you may be able to retrieve it are available at WP:REFUND/G13.

Thank you for your attention. HasteurBot (talk) 01:33, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

Re-editing the article Melodycatcher

When asking for help it takes many month to get any response.at all. On questions no answers are given except fully unclear and exaggerated instructions.

My conclusion: it is of no use to try to re-edit the article. In my opinion this all is only preventing useful information to be added to Wikipedia. Jvos —Preceding undated comment added 10:20, 22 August 2015 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:Melocycatcher

Hello, JLvanOs. It has been over six months since you last edited your WP:AFC draft article submission, entitled "Melocycatcher".

The page will shortly be deleted. If you plan on editing the page to address the issues raised when it was declined and resubmit it, simply and remove the {{db-afc}} or {{db-g13}} code. Please note that Articles for Creation is not for indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace.

If your submission has already been deleted by the time you get there, and you want to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion by following the instructions at WP:REFUND/G13. An administrator will in most cases undelete the submission.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Rich^T|C|E-Mail 22:52, 21 August 2015 (UTC)