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The Pirate Publisher[edit]
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- Reason
- A useful illustration for the copyright law of the Victorian era, rather good for showing how the modern international copyright regime came about. Plus, it's a really fun piece. And it passed Commons on the rule of the fifth day, where if you get overwhelming support, it can close early, so I think it might just be a good one. Compare to the unusable original scan!
- Articles in which this image appears
- [In no particular order]
- Copyright
- The Pirates of Penzance
- Berne Convention for the Protection of Literary and Artistic Works
- Joseph Ferdinand Keppler
- FP category for this image
- [Undetermined]
- Creator
- Joseph Ferdinand Keppler, restored by Adam Cuerden
- Support as nominator --Adam Cuerden (talk) 08:45, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
- Weak support: I see the artistic merit, but I'm just slightly hesitant on EV at the moment. The article Copyright does not discuss the phenomenon and the mention in The Pirates of Penzance is fleeting and in reference to history/context. Berne Convention for the Protection of Literary and Artistic Works does have a short mention, though, and there is some worth in Joseph Ferdinand Keppler as an illustration of his work. It is certainly very close and I'll have a think about upgrading my support. Grandiose (me, talk, contribs) 17:38, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
- Do remember that side boxes don't have to directly reference text - they can be as useful or more when they expand upon it. The situation was the main reason for The Pirates of Penzance premièring in America, and the image - and the description of it - helps give some context in the Copyright article for why international copyright agreements were forming, so I think, in both cases, they serve to help the reader understand the article a bit better. Adam Cuerden (talk) 18:43, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
- Boy, you've worked hard on this, Adam. The page break in particular must have presented a lot of problems. Scheffel's face looks a little distorted, but that's not at all surprising. Obviously you've brightened this to deal with the yellowing of the paper, but I wonder if you've pulled the whites a little too far. There's a little bit of bright white in the waistcoat and moneybag of the pirate, which looks like it should be closer to the yellow of surrounding areas. I'll probably support this even if you don't make another edit, though. Chick Bowen 00:40, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
- So far as I can tell, those are meant to be white - I think these images use white ink for really bright parts. Though maybe I'm not sure where you mean. Can you indicate?
- As for Scheffel's face, I mentioned I had 2 or 3 complete false starts. Scheffel was responsible for a couple of those. Adam Cuerden (talk) 06:56, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
- Well, the money bags are a good example. They are partly yellow and partly blank--where there is no yellow shading, I think they are supposed to be the color of the paper. This would seem to distinguish them from the white ink used for, for example, the pirate's shirt and hat. At least, that's my take from looking closely at the original. Chick Bowen 21:55, 4 January 2013 (UTC)
- That's shading. It gives them shape and dimension. At full resolution, that's very obviously lithographed yellow ink. Adam Cuerden (talk) 00:32, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
- For some reason we're not understanding each other. Yes, the shading is yellow ink. I meant the white parts that aren't shaded. Chick Bowen 06:04, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
- There's an image annotator tool on Commons. Why don't you mark the areas? Adam Cuerden (talk) 19:04, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
- Support after further discussion on my talk page. It's not how I would have done it--I don't see the historical accuracy in assuming zero paper color in the original--but it's something that falls reasonably under discretion. Just as we have different styles of photography in FP, we have different styles of historical restoration. Chick Bowen 21:15, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
- Honestly? I rather presumed the paper would have some colour, but when I started adjustments, the ones that made the most sense didn't have much. I do know from other work that Puck tended to be on white paper, though. Adam Cuerden (talk) 22:45, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
- Support after further discussion on my talk page. It's not how I would have done it--I don't see the historical accuracy in assuming zero paper color in the original--but it's something that falls reasonably under discretion. Just as we have different styles of photography in FP, we have different styles of historical restoration. Chick Bowen 21:15, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
- There's an image annotator tool on Commons. Why don't you mark the areas? Adam Cuerden (talk) 19:04, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
- For some reason we're not understanding each other. Yes, the shading is yellow ink. I meant the white parts that aren't shaded. Chick Bowen 06:04, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
- That's shading. It gives them shape and dimension. At full resolution, that's very obviously lithographed yellow ink. Adam Cuerden (talk) 00:32, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
- Well, the money bags are a good example. They are partly yellow and partly blank--where there is no yellow shading, I think they are supposed to be the color of the paper. This would seem to distinguish them from the white ink used for, for example, the pirate's shirt and hat. At least, that's my take from looking closely at the original. Chick Bowen 21:55, 4 January 2013 (UTC)
- Support I'd say the EV is higher than it may appear as the position of the US as a pirate nation generated a considerable fuss back in the day.©Geni 14:52, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
- Support Tomer T (talk) 19:01, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
- Support Jujutacular (talk) 00:02, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
- Support Good historic value, nice restoration. --Pine✉ 19:39, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
- Support Good restoration and EV. -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 04:51, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
Promoted File:Joseph Ferdinand Keppler - The Pirate Publisher - Puck Magazine - Restoration by Adam Cuerden.jpg --Armbrust The Homunculus 09:10, 11 January 2013 (UTC)