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Improving the appearance of lists using Wikipedia templates

Hello,

I have added a lot of data to the page describing the Alexander Silberman Institute of Life Sciences, please see -

[[Draft:Alexander Silberman Institute of Life Sciences#Kaye Innovation award[32]]]

There are three sections comprised of relatively long lists -

The departments

Awards and recognition (a list of 5 lists)

Notable members (a list of two lists)

I would like to present the data in a clearer and shorter format if possible.

What template can I use to make these lists appear shorter and how do I use this template.

Do you have additional suggestions before I resubmit?

Thank you very much

Biochen123 Biochen123 (talk) 10:33, 10 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, @Biochen123! We don't have a lot of templates for improving display of lists on pages, and that's mostly because we discourage lists in the middle of articles unless this aids in explaining the other prose in the article. Under certain conditions (namely if the entiries of the list are sufficiently short enough), one can use {{div col}} to automatically split lists, but I don't really suggest using this either because it breaks the linear reading direction of an article. Chlod (top • contribs) 10:41, 10 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
So the best thing is to leave it as it is? Biochen123 (talk) 11:41, 10 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Biochen123: Seems so. Chlod (top • contribs) 02:49, 11 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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IPA renderer

As discussed:

phab:T330659#8974444

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2023 Pacific typhoon season

I was just curious as to why small infoboxes keep showing strong typhoon. I couldn't figure out why it was showing strong. People keep erroneously adding this status to the season effects even though it doesnt exist. Noah, AATalk 13:41, 25 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Hurricane Noah: It's automatic, not a fault of the editor using the template, and derives from the non-standard {{Tc nom}} template. Chlod (top • contribs) 16:33, 25 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I was meaning people kept changing the season effects table to say Strong typhoon when that's not correct. I fixed the typhoon issue in the infoboxes by removing the word "strong" at the template you linked. Noah, AATalk 17:02, 25 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Definitely giving this some serious thought. Might get into NPP reviewing when I find more time. But I'd prefer to go through NPP school first just to be extra careful. Chlod (top • contribs) 15:01, 7 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Colors

Would you be able to create something where we could keep track of which pages are using the old colors based upon the absence of colors=new or presence of colors=old? Noah, AATalk 11:20, 16 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Hurricane Noah: See quarry:query/76644. Chlod (top • contribs) 01:13, 17 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Note that there is no colors=old. It's colors=new or bust. This is how the template code is currently written. Chlod (top • contribs) 01:15, 17 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for that. It will be helpful for everyone. Noah, AATalk 01:51, 17 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Popups

Hi Chlod,

I hope you're well. I wanted you to know that I use the QID feature in popups almost every day; thank you again for your work in getting it implemented at long last.

I was wondering also if you might feel inclined to make two other improvements to the tool? One would be, when the target is a template, to add links to its /sandbox and /testcases page (for {{Cite Q}}, for example, that would be Template:Cite Q/sandbox and Template:Cite Q/testcases).

The other one, which might be more complicated, would be to add the ability for an editor with the relevant authority to mark a diff, or a new page, as "patrolled", when viewing it via the tool.

No worries if you're not interested, or too busy, but if you do want to do either of these and need me to draw interface mock-ups, or expand on what's needed, do let me know. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:24, 7 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, @Pigsonthewing! Sorry for the late reply. The one for templates could be easy; I'll try to get to this at some point, but I'm a bit busy right now so it could take a while. As for the second one, I might not be able to do/test this myself, since I don't have patroller rights. Someone else may have a better go at this than me. Thanks for reaching out :) Chlod (top • contribs) 00:35, 17 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. I'm sure you'd be eligible for that right, if you wanted to request it, but no worries if not. And no rush, for either task. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 18:22, 17 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Question from ViridCanine on User:ViridCanine/sandbox (19:20, 2 October 2023)

I want to publish my sandbox article. How do I do so? --ViridCanine (talk) 19:20, 2 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, @ViridCanine! You currently lack the appropriate permissions to publish articles by yourself. In lieu of this, you must use the WP:Articles for creation process. This means submitting your sandbox for review and, if passing our standards on notability, verifiability, and style, publishing. To do this, place {{subst:submit}} at the very top of your sandbox. Chlod (top • contribs) 02:16, 3 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox weather event

Two people challenged the consensus to implement Infobox weather event, with one stating it is improper and flawed, and does not apply at all to floods since the discussion primarily focused on TCs. The jist is either a properly advertised TfD occurs and gains consensus to deprecate the three infoboxes or everything should be reverted back to their original infoboxes per those editors. I figured you should be made aware of this as the creator. Noah, AATalk 14:29, 5 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Hurricane Noah: I have mostly disengaged myself from maintenance of templates in WPTC/WPWX (and perhaps the project in general). This stems from a few reasons, but includes the following:
  • At the time of posting, never having been notified, ping or otherwise, that the new infobox was put into discussion.
    • The new infobox was only ever mentioned after Fred Gandt had found it (props to him), despite much of the original details of that workshop page bearing great resemblance to what I had earlier told you on Discord private messaging (prior to the WPTC AC case).
    • Additionally noting that I was not yet finished with designing the boxes, and was thus compelled to type up the rest of them in short notice. This includes the storm, flood, blizzard, tornado, and tornado outbreak boxes.
      • This has led to editors complaining that the boxes only ever fit WPTC. Of course, they'd be correct, since I first and foremost write about typhoons, and I never had the time to fully study and understand the usages of other infoboxes.
    • A conversion bot or script also was not yet designed. This I couldn't cram quickly as the WP:BRFA process takes time and proper testing.
    • Being rushed to finish non-trivial work led me to be rash and abrasive, which I now recognize and regret.
  • The boxes were put into RfC just after a month of limited discussion and participation. As Jonesey95 and Nikkimaria have correctly pointed out, the RfC only ever received limited participation, and its implementation had bordered on WP:CONLEVEL since the RfC was first closed. A TfD would have been in order (and that much I knew), but I simply went with it as I fully knew that another maintainer could have stepped up instead and I didn't want to abandon something I worked on.
  • Following implementation, I have received indirect personal attacks (1, 2) which I had not prepared for. Unfortunately, I do not have the resources of a Community Relations staff member and I am also an unpaid volunteer. This is something I should not be emotionally invested in, yet I am forced to because of this.
  • Many editors have pointed out flaws in the new infobox, and I have since crunched out band-aid fix after band-aid fix to people-please, or else further conversion would be blocked.
  • The growing disorganization of Module:Storm categories/categories, which now includes definitions for droughts depsite droughts not being storms.
  • The removal of many archive links from tropical cyclone pages in replacement of archives that point to the completely wrong advisory since bots were never aware that the links for JTWC, PAGASA, and JMA advisories (through NOAA) were ephemeral.
  • Having cleared my mind and renewed my thought process, I regret my behavior and a lot of what I've said in discussions past and I wish to dissociate from this project for some time.
Should the reversal of infobox conversions be done on flood articles, I wouldn't mind much, as {{Infobox flood}} is one of the only boxes which don't look terrible at the time that I made the new infobox. As for the rest of articles, I wish not to spearhead the process of filing the appropriate discussions to fully remove all barriers to implementation. I still believe that the new infoboxes look significantly better than our old TC infoboxes, and I think they look great where they're currently used. But I need some (indefinite amount of) time off of this project, as I'm getting close to the amount of mental turmoil I had caused by this project back when I was brought to the Arbitration Committee — and I find that highly unsustainable. Chlod (top • contribs) 17:55, 5 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Question from Bender bonder (16:05, 9 November 2023)

Hello Chlod! Very pleased to meet you! I do have a question. I have been contacted outside the Wikipedia workspace by some editors who mentioned would help me get my articles published if I paid for the help. Does this sound legit?? Thank you! --Bender bonder (talk) 16:05, 9 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, @Bender bonder! Thanks for reaching out; this is a very serious matter. Real Wikipedia editors will never contact or solicit you for payment or compensation of any kind in exchange for assistance. More information on this can be found at WP:SCAM. Chlod (top • contribs) 23:21, 9 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for the clarification, Chlod! Bender bonder (talk) 15:46, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello Chlod: Enjoy the holiday season and winter solstice if it's occurring in your area of the world, and thanks for your work to maintain, improve and expand Wikipedia. Cheers, MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 02:44, 9 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Thanks for the greetings, @MrLinkinPark333! Hope you have a great holiday season too. Chlod (top • contribs) 14:35, 9 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Thanks, @Josh! Looking forward to working with you in the next year. Hope you have a happy 2024! Chlod (top • contribs) 15:27, 30 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Inegben (13:25, 5 January 2024)

Hi Chlod, I trust you're doing great today.

How do you advise me to start up my editing and publishing journey?

I would very much love to update a lot of articles and biographies on Wiki. But I don't want to navigate this journey the wrong way. --Inegben (talk) 13:25, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

January 2024

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Blank and Redirect

Hi Chlod, please do not blank and redirect my Tanjay National High School article. We both want to improve Wikipedia, but we often disagree diametrically on how to do that. Although I often do not get my preferred outcome, I think these disagreements should go through the PROD/AfD process. That way other editors that have access to different databases than I do or to library resources I don't have, may have a chance to improve an article, an outcome that I believe we both want. Thank you.Rc ramz (talk) 11:54, 12 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, @Rc ramz. I did not perform the BLAR on the page, but an administrator did as a result of the AfD for the page. I made my case on that AfD, but you did not provide yours, despite a prominent notice at the top of the article pointing to the discussion page for a week. Even if you disagree, Wikipedia's policies on notability will prevail over subjective assessments on whether a subject deserves an article. In this case, Tanjay National High School does not pass the bare minimum for notability: the presence of significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject. We do not keep all articles, nor do we write about everything that exists. Chlod (top • contribs) 13:49, 12 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Okay...and how about the article same as mine about school also that existed here in Wikipedia with no references or sources at all?? Thanks for the response. Rc ramz (talk) 16:32, 12 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Rc ramz: Which one? It should also be deleted. Chlod (top • contribs) 00:39, 13 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sta. Lucia National High School Mag-aba National High School Pulong Buhangin National High School San Miguel National High School Sun Valley National High School and many more its like not just hundredths but thousands of them exist here I thought of this why this allowed some may have 1 references and the other don't have any site or reference at all. Rc ramz (talk) 03:52, 13 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Bignay National High School Taguig Science High School when you click the article under them there's a lot of school recommendations that no reference or just one references when Wikipedia says about notability then why this existed... Rc ramz (talk) 03:59, 13 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Rc ramz: A single reference on an article usually means it's not notable. Wikipedia:Notability explains this in further detail. Articles likes these slip through the cracks because article patrolling did not exist. It does now, hence why I found the article you made. Please do not create any more articles like this. Chlod (top • contribs) 04:03, 13 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, Chlod thanks for reminding. And now I will find new relevant articles that is worth for notability... Rc ramz (talk) 04:06, 13 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, Chlod thanks for reminding. And now I will find new relevant articles that is worth for notability... Rc ramz (talk) 04:08, 13 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
So what will happen to that articles I mentioned and to those article like that??:⁠-⁠) Rc ramz (talk) 04:10, 13 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Rc ramz: SVNHS has been blanked and redirected. BNHS has been tagged, pending further evaluation. TSHS has some coverage due to a 2020 controversy about alleged sexual harassment from faculty and students; this may be enough for the school to remain notable on its own. Chlod (top • contribs) 04:39, 13 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, Chlod Thank you. Greatly appreciate it & w/ ur direct response.❣️Rc ramz (talk) 05:52, 13 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi, I'm working on my first entry so, I'm feeling my way as I go. However, I have a fair few questions about how to deal with some of the sources of my information - in particular, a great many facts and anecdotes come from personal recollections that I have recorded in emails, zoom meetings, etc. The person I am writing about, while significant, has been essentially forgotten since his death. As such, it has all been primary research to find out about him - one article was written about him after his death but that was in 1981 and nothing since. I've recently written a short biographical piece about him that has been published online on the Modern Stoicism site but is it right to reference my own work and a wiki article I'm writing? So, overall, I've had to rely upon contemporary sources such as newspapers, travel documents, etc, personal recollections, and so on to piece together his life. So, any advice would be greatly appreciated. Regards Chris --Kristoferly (talk) 00:02, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Question from John Bois (05:59, 28 January 2024)

Hey! I have free time now and getting back into Wikipedia editing so I do know what I am doing mostly! I mostly edit American sports articles (football, soccer hockey, basketball, and baseball) I do have one question though if you go on a Wikipedia page like "76ers" they have colored boxes do you know how to do that? --John Bois (talk) 05:59, 28 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, @John Bois! Sorry for the really late reply. The color for basketball club infoboxes are controlled in two ways: either by setting |color1= (text color), |color2= (background color), and |color3= (border color) in the infobox, or by adding the team to the centralized Module:Sports color/basketball module. Note that module editing may be a difficult when you're only starting out — I suggest making edit requests at the module's talk page instead, so that a competent editor can make the change for you. Chlod (top • contribs) 11:00, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello! It's great to have an experienced mentor. Thanks for being willing to help me out!

I am an English major in my university (undergraduate), and I was wanting to create a new article on my topic. For more background, the project is supposed to be an article that "looks" like a Wikipedia article, but is completed on Canva. I wanted to actually contribute to Wikipedia and start my writing adventure here with this first assignment!

All that to say that this will be the first Wikipedia article I've ever written, and I'm super excited about it, but I'm not entirely sure what I'm doing. I plan on checking out the "how to create a new article" page, but I'm wondering if there's any tips you might be able to give me?

Thank you!

Tangerine --Tangerineskies (talk) 22:03, 20 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, @Tangerineskies! First off, welcome to Wikipedia and thank you for your interest in contributing! My go-to page for finding out how to write articles is Help:Your first article, which covers the basics of what to check for before you write article, and what to do while you write your article. All articles from newcomers start off as drafts, where they'll eventually be reviewed prior to publishing.
There's a lot of tips I can give, but perhaps the most useful one I can give is to ensure that you're using good, reliable sources. Sources are the foundation of an article; it could make or break whether or not a draft gets accepted. Help:Referencing for beginners has a simple guide to sourcing, but if you're more into specifics and details, you can check out Wikipedia:Reliable sources — the holy grail for what is and what isn't allowed as a source on Wikipedia.
If you're ever confused, you've got more questions, or you need help, feel free to reach out! There's a "reply" button after each message on this talk page, which you can use instead of drafting new questions from your homepage. I'll be sure to reply as soon as I can. Again, welcome to Wikipedia and I hope you stick around! Chlod (top • contribs) 11:52, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hello again @Chlod. Thank you so much for your quick reply! I appreciate the resources and have been checking out a bunch of these websites since yesterday afternoon. I am not the best at "coding" (I know Wikipedia uses its own basic system using brackets, and accepts HTML-5, which I don't really know anything about either). Because of this, I was wondering how much I will need to know to write articles? In the sandbox, I tried to use a few of these keys out, but it said I was in the WYSIWYG viewing page and not the coding page. Would you be able to tell me how to switch back and forth between the "coding" page and the default sandbox page, please?
Thanks for your help!
Tangerineskies (talk) 16:52, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Tangerineskies: If you're getting a WYSIWYG editor, then you're probably using VisualEditor. This is usually enough for most article writing (and it's what I use when writing most of my articles). If you'd like to switch to the "source editor" (or "wikitext editor", same thing), click on the dropdown at the top-right of the page, and select "source editor". The page should reload and open up the source editor. From here, you can use wikitext to write your article/draft. To switch back, just click on the same dropdown and select "Visual editing".
When editing in the source editor, I suggest enabling syntax highlighting using the icon (may be hidden behind the "Page options" menu). It'll highlight parts of the text and help you differentiate between links, references, templates, and text. Hope this helps! Chlod (top • contribs) 17:07, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks @Chlod! If it's entirely possible to write articles on the VisualEditor formatting, then I think I'll stick with that for now. Thank you for all your help! Tangerineskies (talk) 17:10, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Tangerineskies (03:35, 27 February 2024)

Hello again! I'm working on my first article--I'm figuring everything out pretty well, but the only thing I'm really having trouble with is figuring out how to make the box thing. What I mean by that is the box/chart of information inserted on the right of most articles that has quick facts, like author, title, year, publisher, etc. How do I add that to my draft? Thanks! Tangerineskies (talk) 03:35, 27 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi again, @Tangerineskies! Great to hear your article is going well! You must be talking about the infobox template. For infoboxes, you need to use a box specific to the object you're writing an article about. You mentioned template parameters which sound a lot like they'd be on a book, so the template to use here would be the {{Infobox book}} template. Each template has its own documentation (I've linked it earlier) which you can read to get a grasp of what parameters you can use. If you're using VisualEditor, you'll also get information about the parameters from within the editor. If you're not writing about a book, you can check out Category:Infobox templates for a list of infobox templates that you can use. Chlod (top • contribs) 03:45, 27 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your help! Just figured it out.
By the way, I've figured out how to save my changes to my sandbox, but is there a way to send the link or page to someone? I plan on submitting this draft to be reviewed for publishing, but I also need to send it (probably before it's been edited) to my professor for my grade. Is there any way I can link it or email it to someone prior to publishing?
Thanks again!
Tangerineskies (talk) 04:19, 27 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Tangerineskies: The latest version of your sandbox is publicly-accessible on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Tangerineskies/sandbox. If you're sending it for review, however, you might want to link to a specific version of the page instead, since your sandbox can possibly contain a wide range of other topics in the future. There's a "permanent link" link on the "Tools" menu (found at the page header), which redirects you to an unchanging version of the page. In this case, it's this link.
To submit your draft for review, just click on the blue "Submit your draft for review!" button that you can find at the very bottom of your draft. A reviewer will come along, make required changes to the article, and then either publish the article or leave a comment suggesting further changes. Before submitting, I suggest taking a look at the Manual of Style and applying it; it'll make the article complaint with how the rest of Wikipedia's articles are written. Chlod (top • contribs) 04:46, 27 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you so much for all your help! I'll check it out.
Tangerineskies (talk) 05:42, 27 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Question from John A from NOLA (21:37, 27 February 2024)

Hello!

I joined the editing team, specifically to edit and expand parts of the CHA (Children's Hospital Association) organization. I have been an active member since it formed, and it is an important organization with regards to children's health. I have made a few very minor changes to the wiki page. I am wondering when I will be able to expand the wiki page. I know several programming and scripting languages. I also know the importance of previewing work. I only really want to edit pages where I am an expert with the subject. --John A from NOLA (talk) 21:37, 27 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, John, and welcome to Wikipedia! You're free to expand the article right now! You just need to make sure to follow the various policies and guidelines when editing to avoid problems. Writing articles isn't much like programming or scripting, though; wikitext is mostly WYSIWYG, with some add features, such as linking. Help:Wikitext has more information on the matter.
I suggest you also take a look at our policies on conflict of interest editing. We strongly encourage you to make a disclosure when editing pages that you may have a conflict of interest with. If you're being compensated for your edits (i.e., the edits you are making are due to payment and not due to your own volition), you are instead required to make this disclosure. I've linked the relevant pages above; please read them before your next edit. Chlod (top • contribs) 04:07, 28 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your reply. Coincidentally, I just completed my triennial Conflict of Interest training from the CITI Program. I read the pages you suggested for determining COI, and it lead me to the plain and simple explanation: Wikipedia:Plain_and_simple_conflict_of_interest_guide. I am not being paid for my efforts, nor will I edit or create articles about me, my family or friends, my organization, my clients, or my competitors. I did work on one of their advisory boards, but resigned my position in 2015. All of the people I knew at the organization have resigned or retired. I am using public information in order to update the page (and documenting references).
I see one of my edits, but the second edit was not recorded or published. I changed the name of the CEO (along with a link to the announcing article), plus changed the number of hospitals involved (220 instead of 200). I may not have saved those edits, and it looks like no one undid those edits. I may have looked at the preview and never published the update. John A from NOLA (talk) 17:02, 29 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sounds good, John! You're welcome to make more changes like these as long as they're reliably sourced. We commonly use secondary sources, but we also sometimes use primary sources, such as when citing information about one's self.
If you're ever stuck on something or you need advice, do feel free to reach out. It's always great to see new names editing Wikipedia, and I hope you stick around to contribute more about the topics you know well. You mentioned wanting to edit the page for the CHA; while I'm not well-versed in editing organization articles, you can also reach out to the folks at WikiProject Organizations and WikiProject Medicine if you have any specific questions on article content. Editors will usually respond to queries on the talk page for those projects. Chlod (top • contribs) 17:34, 29 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I actually started editing my userpage, in the thought that I would continue to look for pages where I have the experience to assist. I saw the medicine page you mentioned, but actually subscribed to the Wikipedia:WikiProject Hospitals page. I do work in medicine, but I am more comfortable with the editing hospital pages. I was a volunteer for the US News Hospitals ranking for more than ten years, but I stopped volunteering about 10 years ago. I did learn about healthcare systems and hospitals from around the country. The administrative area for hospitals is a relatively small community, and even looking at one of the edit pages, I am fairly sure I know one of the editors, based on their userpage and interests.
I am sure I will have questions in the future. And I have had other interests over the years. I have started and stopped writing a technical book over the years, and this new avenue may scratch part of that itch.
John A from NOLA (talk) 19:01, 29 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Mforperfect on User:Mforperfect (11:44, 1 March 2024)

Hello. I'm trying to create an article for my artist persona and am in need of assistance. I have an article I can type but I'm not quite sure how to put it up. --Mforperfect (talk) 11:44, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, @Mforperfect. Writing articles about yourself is strongly discouraged. Please refer to the linked page for more information. Chlod (top • contribs) 14:50, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Revision to History Content

I was reading the Dell_Children's_Medical_Center page as a user, not an editor, and I found the following paragraph under History may have an inaccurate phrase (italicized): In May 2023, following an investigation by Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton into the hospital's adolescent clinic providing gender affirming care to trans minors, the entire adolescent clinic was fired by the hospital.

Looking at the two sources (one, two), neither article discusses how the physicians left. I did not want to edit the page myself, as I would have to disclose a conflict of interest (COI), and I was not clear if I have to declare a COI if I just pointed this out in the talk page of the article. I thought about posting my thoughts on the individual's talk page, but I did not know of that was appropriate.

I also noted that the number of beds needed to be updated, per the AHA site.

Please advise.

John A from NOLA (talk) 22:45, 29 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@John A from NOLA: When editing pages related to something you may have a conflict of interest in, disclosure is suggested. A short simple statement will do; nothing extremely long required. You can also post this on your userpage with {{User COI}}.
About the phrase you highlighted, it does seem like the sources don't back up the text. Of course, you're allowed to remove this on your own (and I encourage you to do so; be bold!), but you can also raise this on the talk page. You can also discuss this in the talk page of the user who added it — this is fine an appropriate, as long as you remain civil in discussing. From a look at the page's history, it was added at 16:42, May 22, 2023‎ (UTC) by Snokalok. You can reach out on their talk page here. In any case, disclosure is suggested, as it helps contextualize edits. These are, to be fair, relatively low-risk, but it wouldn't hurt to give others a heads-up.
As for the bed count; feel free to update that as needed. Feel free to reach out if you need further advice! Chlod (top • contribs) 15:11, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks so much for the feedback/advice. I notice that the page has not been touched in quite sometime, so I went ahead and edited it, after documenting a COI on the page.
John A from NOLA (talk) 17:47, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
All good; thank you for your edit! I've moved your {{connected contributor}} tag into the talk page, where it's supposed to be. Hope you don't mind. Chlod (top • contribs) 21:28, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You are the best. I will use that as a template, in case I edit other pages where there is a COI. I am a birder, but honestly, the bird pages I have seen are very well done and don't seem to need any editing. Even sub-divisions into new species seem to already be made. I don't have any conflicts with various birds - I know of only one man who may have needed to do so, Nikola Tesla, as he fell in love with one particular pigeon at the St. Regis Hotel in NYC. Again, thanks for moving the COI.
John A from NOLA (talk) 14:10, 6 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Legs1943 on Talk:Roman Catholic Diocese of Kansas City–Saint Joseph (08:10, 10 March 2024)

Who to contact for Annulment? --Legs1943 (talk) 08:10, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Legs1943: We are not a general helpdesk. Please contact the Roman Catholic Diocese of Kansas City–Saint Joseph instead. Chlod (top • contribs) 09:25, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

March 2024

Automatic bug report

!!! Preview rollback dosn't work. (I do not have extended-confirmed, if that matters.) !!! OrdinaryGiraffe (talk) 22:45, 11 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]


Error during closeDialog callback. TypeError: rw.rollback.clickHandlers[elID] is not a function 

   at https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:RedWarn/.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript:2954:52
   at HTMLDialogElement.<anonymous> (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:RedWarn/.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript:1187:43)
   at HTMLDialogElement.dispatch (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/load.php?lang=en&modules=jquery%2Cvue&skin=vector-2022&version=105gd:65:932)
   at elemData.handle (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/load.php?lang=en&modules=jquery%2Cvue&skin=vector-2022&version=105gd:62:565)

A Wikicookie for you!

Created a whole ass template when I asked about a specific editing grievance

Personhumanperson (talk) 14:19, 13 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Personhumanperson: That's what editing is all about. Chlod (top • contribs) 14:23, 13 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Shadowstorm828 (03:55, 13 April 2024)

Hi, I'm trying to update a page and the only edit option that I have is to edit the source code of the page. Is there anyway to directly edit the page itself? --Shadowstorm828 (talk) 03:55, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, @Shadowstorm828! If you mean edit the page visually, you might be interested in trying out VisualEditor. More information on VE is available on the linked page. Let me know if you have any more questions. Chlod (top • contribs) 03:58, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Question from ThedudeLex (19:26, 20 April 2024)

How do I create a page for an athlete with their respective information? Do I just create an article and once it is reviewed they put the information in the correct areas? Thanks for tour help --ThedudeLex (talk) 19:26, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, @ThedudeLex, and welcome to Wikipedia! When creating articles, you have to add in the information yourself before sending it off for review. I suggest reading Help:Your first article, the notability guideline in sports (which dictates who are eligible to have articles written about them), and Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons (which is a general guideline on biographies). All of these pages have relevant information about writing articles for athletes. If you have any questions, feel free to reply! I'll try to get back to you as soon as possible. Chlod (top • contribs) 21:35, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Logiic rusky (14:02, 22 April 2024)

hello im logic how can we i put my image here --Logiic rusky (talk) 14:02, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Logiic rusky: We don't allow personal photos for non-active contributors of Wikipedia and its sister projects. Chlod (top • contribs) 16:03, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Mizokuhle on User talk:41.114.142.88 (16:57, 25 April 2024)

Hello --Mizokuhle (talk) 16:57, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, @Mizokuhle! Anything I can help you with? Please also note that talk pages work a lot more like emails than instant messaging apps like Telegram or WhatsApp; responses are usually slow, and you're encouraged to be patient before sending another message. Chlod (top • contribs) 17:09, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
i just want to ask some questions Mizokuhle (talk) 17:37, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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