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@PSA: I hadn't realized you reverted my edits twice. I assumed you'd prefer discussing rather than simply deleting my sourced content twice. Since that didn't happen, I decided to initiate this discussion to prevent further disruption. Why should I bother contributing in the first place when someone like you appears out of nowhere, dismissing the additions made? You claimed "casual users" wouldn't bother reading the added note and then deleted other edits about voice acting because they didn't fit! Why should I believe your poor excuses?! Instead of attempting to modify them, you just removed them outright, suggesting your ill intentions from the start. Since when did this platform fall under the control of a select few who dictate what should or shouldn't be added? Unable to criticize the content itself, you resorted to cheap tactics, which are both subjective and shameful. Any other revert from you is a 3RR, I would not prefer an edit war, but you seem that you are inclined to it, so let's use this talkpage to find a suitable solution. 2A02:908:454:1660:F42D:6518:AEB3:4CE8 (talk) 04:18, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
First, please assume good faith on why I reverted your additions. Second, I did not appear "out of nowhere"; I have kept this on my watchlist for a long time and I was one of two people who brought it to featured article status, a process wherein several editors vet whether an article meets Wikipedia's best standards based on things like prose and sourcing, so I have always monitored the state of this page.
A major thing brought up in that process was keeping the article as concise as possible, and while that applied to the reception section, it meant that generally anything that is not crucial to understanding the entire game, including minor details about the plot, should be extricated. Whereever the raid happened is a forgettable detail and should not be in the article, no matter if it's sourced. The same goes for the reception section: to keep a summary style (or keep the section as condensed and easy to understand as possible) the section should cover only the recurring commentary about the game. We should avoid going on tangents and be focused. The comment about the accents, while I definitely understand including and a criticism I definitely noticed outside of editing Wikipedia, is probably best left excluded.
Pinging @ZooBlazer, the other person who brought this article to featured article status, for their thoughts. PSA 🏕️🪐 (please make some noise...) 05:32, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@PSA: I am sure that a huge effort was made in order to grant this article a featured mark, yet as I mentioned I only added a note, and highlighted a major issue regarding voice acting which would be surely mentioned and hugely criticized, had this article been about something major for instance. Imagine someone acting in a movie with a British accent as someone who was born and raised in New York! Their mistake is similar to that so I think it is worth adding at least. 2A02:908:454:1660:F42D:6518:AEB3:4CE8 (talk) 06:22, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Please refer to the criteria for a featured article, which says that they must be "a thorough and representative survey of the relevant literature". Is that one single criticism, made by one single source out of many reviews, representative of every reliable source we have about the subject? No. It was not a widespread criticism, so it is not worth mentioning no matter if you personally think it was such a big deal. See also this: "it stays focused on the main topic without going into unnecessary detail". Yes, you may relegate a minor detail like that to a note, but question yourself on whether a note on such a small detail is needed in the first place. You don't add something simply because you "think" it is worth doing so; you have to consider we have policies and a manual of style in place. PSA 🏕️🪐 (please make some noise...) 06:44, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@PSA: It is not what I think and never would be, so do not try to make it as it is my opinion, any edit here should be sourced once added that what I care about, you are the one who is trying hardly to delete both edits! I am sure that no English source would understand the difference between local accents, no one would report that other than the locals for sure, the mistake came from the game developers in the first place, let alone the difference between the English and Arabic voice actresses, in any other tv series or movie, that would definitely be mentioned and scrutinized, yet you came here to ridicule it as it was normal. It was a major mistake, so it should be added regardless of whether it was reported by one or five hundred sources, on the other hand, you try to convince me that each review written here was reported extensively, come on try again! you keep trying to belittle the edits as if they would decrease the value of the article to a stub! I am honestly tired of arguing with you, as anything could be added to an article once sourced, yet you would keep wasting my time just to make sure that the content to be removed regardless of their value. Go ahead do whatever, I should have never written anything in the first place, total waste of time! 2A02:908:454:1660:F42D:6518:AEB3:4CE8 (talk) 07:10, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
My sincerest apologies that your contributions were excluded, but let me reiterate we have policies in place that determine what content should be included or not. I alone do not determine the value of your edits; the policy and MoS do as well. You are welcome to contribute to other places. PSA 🏕️🪐 (please make some noise...) 07:16, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
So looking at the changes, the note in the plot isn't necessary, but I think it's fine to keep the info about the wrong language being used. Pretty sure the article used to include that, unless I just read about it during the GA/FA processes. -- ZooBlazer 07:16, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@ZooBlazer: I believe the article never mentioned it beforehand, though I may also be mistaken. The commentary about the inaccurate dialect (Egyptian vs. Iraqi Arabic) was certainly one I encountered in online spaces but never thought of adding because it didn't really fit anywhere in the recepton section. PSA 🏕️🪐 (please make some noise...) 07:28, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
