Talk:SMS Breslau/GA1

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GA Review[edit]

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Reviewer: MisterBee1966 (talk · contribs) 12:55, 21 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
  1. It is reasonably well written.
    a (prose): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
  2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.
    a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):
  3. It is broad in its coverage.
    a (major aspects): b (focused):
  4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.
    Fair representation without bias:
  5. It is stable.
    No edit wars, etc.:
  6. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
    a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
  7. Overall:
    Pass/Fail:

Feedback is based on Hildebrand, Röhr and Steinmetz, volume 2, pages 139–142, in no particular order. MisterBee1966 (talk) 16:57, 25 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hildebrand, Hans H.; Röhr, Albert; Steinmetz, Hans-Otto (1993). Die Deutschen Kriegsschiffe. Vol. 1–10. Ratingen: Mundus Verlag. ASIN B003VHSRKE.

  • Christened by the mayor of Breslau
  • Initially only 3 smoke stacks, the 4th was added after initial sea trials (reason unknown)
    • That's not supported in Gröner who shows four funnels in the 1912 drawing.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 01:39, 1 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
      • I leave this up to you what to make of the info, maybe a footnote? MisterBee1966 (talk) 13:19, 3 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • HRS page 142 state, hit by 5 mines, 330 killed but only 133 saved and taken POW
  • 2 dabs: Boiler room and Sinope
  • crew size is 354 up to 374 (HRS p. 139), both figures do not match 330 killed plus 133/162 rescued
    • Crew size always expands during wartime, but I have no detailed information.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 01:39, 1 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Armament in 1916 was 2 × 15 cm SK L/45 guns; 10 × 10.5 cm SK L/45 guns after the battle at Odessa in April 1915. Midilli was refiited at the shipyard O.I.I. (Osmanli Imparatorlügü Istinye, Tersanesi). The 10 × 10.5 cm SK L/45 guns were replaced in July 1916 – April 1917
    • This is a little confusing. My sources state two 10.5 cm guns were replaced by 15 cm guns by Feb. 1916. I don't have a good date for the replacement of the others so I can incorporate your data if you can provide complete bibliographic info.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 01:39, 1 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • The source from Hownam-Meek is not used/referenced maybe move to a further reading section?
    • I've moved it back into the refs as I used it to cite the 5 mines.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 01:15, 16 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]