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Misleading map[edit]

The current map lumps Canada (31%) in with USA (80%) which is a pretty absurd difference. It also makes UK (20%) and Poland (0.1%) look the same, when they're actually different by a factor of 200). There's no reason to destroy the data in this way; better would be to make the map be a slow gradient like this one: https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/circumcision-by-country 2001:569:525E:FE00:8A5:9F3F:BA95:6099 (talk) 18:42, 2 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Sudan[edit]

Someone is going to have to explain Sudan, because I'm kind of doubting the information is accurate. It's an almost universally Muslim country. I haven't been able to find any sources for the information, and my research has provided no explanation. If I find anything I'll include it in the article, but so far I'm coming up empty handed. 75.27.37.89 (talk) 19:20, 1 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

We have cited sources. You have an opinion, and no sources. Guess which one we're going to go with? Meters (talk) 21:08, 1 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Bias/Incorrect Information[edit]

This page (particularly the US section) appears to be strongly biased in favor of circumcision, and I'm curious why a lot of incorrect information and studies are being posted as "sources".

As an example, this page appears to conflate the current newborn circumcision rate with the prevalence of adult men who are circumcised. Which of the two is this page meant to be discussing? For example, the 31% figure for Canada is referring to newborns, born in 2006-2007, not all adult men of all ages in Canada.

While it's correct that the prevalence for adult men in the US is estimated at around 80%, more recent studies (including one from 2012) have estimated the newborn rate in the US has fallen to 55-58%. The CDC has not stated anywhere that the current newborn rate in the US is 80%, and no source is provided for that statement on the page. This page needs to clarify whether it's discussing the prevalence of adults who are already circumcised, or the current rates for newborns. Those are two very different numbers, and it appears that this page is citing a mixture of both numbers, which is confusing.

Several of the sources are opinion papers by disgraced professor Brian Morris from Australia (Source 1), (Source 2), who is not a medical doctor, and was publicly rebuked by the Royal Australasian College of Physicians for his obsession with circumcision. His other writings and online postings suggests he has a circumcision fetish, and border on pedophilia. His papers are "peer-reviewed" by the same 2-3 friends of his, who are also vocal pro-circumcision activists. Papers written by Brian Morris should not be considered accurate information about this topic, and his views contradict the views stated by medical organizations around the world. 73.128.151.200 (talk) 02:08, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]