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Chernobyl Eventual Death Rate[edit]

The mention of "an eventual death toll of 4,000–27,000" for Chernobyl isn't supported by the sources indicated as references. Has someone confused cancer cases with cancer deaths? Besides, the references are old and/or vague. As far as I understand, the scientific community has abandoned the old linear models for estimating health effects of low radiation doses, so the 2005 WHO 4'000 estimate has been abandoned and newer WHO or UNSCEAR reports typically talk about the 45 or so known deaths. The ourworldindata source makes an estimate of 300-500 and UNSCEAR's "CHERNOBYL 2017 WHITE PAPER Evaluation of data on thyroid cancer in regions affected by the Chernobyl accident" describes roughly 20'000 thyroid cancer cases totally among young in Ukraine and Belarus, and estimate around 25% caused by the radiation from Chernobyl. With a 2-8% death rate for such cancer, that translates to 100-400 deaths. I see no recent, serious sources mentioning anything more than hundreds or so. MagnusLycka (talk) 20:59, 13 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Palomares crash[edit]

Is there a clasification for the 1966 Palomares B-52 crash under the INES? I think it could be a nice addition to the table and from what I've read, it could be classified as a Level 2 incident, but I haven't found sources regarding this. NoonIcarus (talk) 22:40, 8 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Second (1958) Chalk River incident should also be in this list[edit]

My guess is that the 1958 incident would be level 4, but I have not been able to find any source that confirms this. (Fuel rod was damaged and caught fire, reactor was damaged, interior of building + 0.4 sq km contaminated.) https://www.nuclearfaq.ca/cnf_sectionD.htm#nru1958

Note that the List of civilian nuclear accidents article lists it as level 5, but this may be due to a misreading of the following source discussing the 1952 incident: http://large.stanford.edu/courses/2016/ph241/zerkalov1/docs/mukhopadhyay.pdf KaiaVintr (talk) 18:38, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think we need more examples in the table; we already arguably have too many. VQuakr (talk) 18:42, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Suggestion is based on the fact that Sellafield appears in the list eight times, and calling the Chalk River accident the "first" naturally makes people wonder about the others. But anyway, if no reference can be found for the rating, then not much can be done. KaiaVintr (talk) 18:59, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]