Talk:Etschtal

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Requested move[edit]

The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

No consensus to move. Vegaswikian (talk) 23:21, 14 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Etschtal → Adige Valley – For reasons of consistency with Adige. Adige Valley seems to be the most common English name for the valley [1]. Mai-Sachme (talk) 09:43, 7 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose: We cannot rely on Google name searches in this case because Etschtal denotes only a specific, rather short part of the Adige Valley in South Tyrol, but Google indiscriminately groups this part together with the much longer stretch of the Adige Valley running through the rest of Italy, thus distorting the hit count. To the best of my knowledge, as with the rest of the South Tyrolean topography, there exists no English name for the Etschtal, so Wikipedia:Naming conventions (geographic names) applies: articles about locations in South Tyrol are placed according to the language of the linguistic majority. Gun Powder Ma (talk) 21:35, 7 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

...which stretches from Merano to Bolzano and from Salurn to Rovereto. Most of the valley called Etschtal or Val d'Adige is located in Trentino, not South Tyrol. --Mai-Sachme (talk) 01:08, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

That's two specific short parts; let's have a source for the gap between Bolzano and Salurn, or indeed for any of this. In fact, let's have some evidence of notability. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 18:48, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reschenpass -> Merano: Vinschgau

Merano -> Bolzano: Etschtal/Val d'Adige

Bolzano -> Salorno: Unterland

Salorno -> Murazzi narrows (the closest village is Besenello): Val'Adige/Etschtal

Murazzi narrows -> Po Valley: Vallagarina

Geographically, the whole course of the Adige in the Alps could be referred to as Adige valley, but the population there makes clear distinctions and calls just two relative short parts by this name. Unfortunately, it's quite difficult to source this common usage. On the other hand, I could easily source the borders of Vinschgau, Unterland and Vallagarina, but they are not really in question, are they? --Mai-Sachme (talk) 21:59, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, I found some indirect sources for the South Tyrolean part of the Etschtal. This guide for hikers defines the Etschtal as the area between Merano and Bolzano. This book describes the autochthonous Italian-speaking minority in the Unterland and Etschtal. And here we have two Italian books [2] [3] using Val d'Adige and Bassa Atesina (=Unterland) as distinct terms. --Mai-Sachme (talk) 22:13, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. Gryffindor (talk) 20:28, 14 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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